Friday, 20 September 2024

Groovy Kinder Love

Groovy & Baby Kinder Love

I have added the option of running a shorter version of the Groovy Kinder Love with a totally uninspired name "Groovy Baby Love". Both races start together and follow the main race route to Jacob's Ladder Top CP 4 (the baby bypasses the down-and-up to Jacob's Ladder Bottom CP 5) and splits again at Broad Clough ford CP 7. The "baby" crosses the ford and goes over the stile while the main race turns right to follow the fence-line/Broad Clough for 30(ish) metres before going through a gate to climb back up to the three knolls path. The baby continues around to briefly meet the main route again at Benny's bridge/bottom of Sandy Heys CP 10, where the baby turns left to climb up to the Shooting Cabin CP 12, while the main race climbs up William Clough. Both routes then meet again for the final descent from the Shooting Cabin CP 12 to the finish. There are instructions in the attached "Baby" PDF and an  image at the bottom of this page.

2024 was the first year running the two options, it worked OK(ish). The idea of the "baby" was that it was meant to be an easier alternative to the main race, but in retrospect there was not enough of a difference between the two options. The "baby" is still a hard race and anybody who could do it would also be capable of doing the longer one, so in effect they were in competition with each other.

There are changes from 2025. South Head CP has has been removed for both races to remove confusion with trying to get some people to bypass it while sending the Groovy over the top. The main change will be removing the Jacob’s Ladder CP for the baby. That removes 2Km/170m climb.

The stats for each race will then be:

Groovy 24.5 Km 1290m
Baby  16 km 675m

There is just a single entry for both races (so you just enter the Groovy Kinder Love). You can decide at race number allocation which route you want to run. The race limit of 200 then covers both races so there will not be 400 running. 

Google Drive link to a PDF and PNG of the full race map.

The introduction of the second race  has necessitated  moving the  Broad Clough and Sandy Heys Bottom CPs.

The Broad Clough CP has been moved back down to the Broad Clough Ford as that is where the races split and the marshal can ensure runners go the correct way.

The "Bottom of Sandy Heys CP  will be by Benny's Bridge as the baby will be coming around the side of the hill to briefly meet at that CP before spliting again. 

GPX should be available here. PlotaRoute GPX

Sat 6th Sep 2025 – Groovy Kinder Love (R) (24.5 Km, 1280 m)

It will be the "2020" route as outline below

Click here for the 2021 Winners Strava Plot


This will make for an ideal first AL for anybody wanting to give this category a go as it is right down near the minimum acquirements for this category.
Site of Special Scientific Interest (SSSI)
This area is a SSSI, which does limit where the race can go. Hence there are a lot of checkpoints, to stop people going "off-piste", which would endanger getting permissions for future events. The CPs are not set in stone but the route will be more of less what is shown below.
 This is the route details that have been agreed with the NT and have been submitted to Natural England

Route Detail

This is a fell race to there is little or no route marking. A number of people went badly wrong in 2024 becaue of heavy route marking for a trail race that also went through the area.
The two races split at three different locations. So be careful at these three locations that you do not blindly follow somebody on a different course.

1    CP4 Pennine Way Jnc./Top of Jacob's Ladder
2    CP7 Broad Clough
3    CP 10 Bottom of Sandy Heys/Benny's Bridge


Groovy Kinder Love Start Valley Road, Finish Scout Hut


Start to CP 1 (Christine's Gate)

                                      
CP 3 South Head has been retired so ignore that CP.

                                         
Remember CP 4 Pennine Way Jnc/Top of Jacob's Ladder is the first split.

Jacob's Ladder to Edale Rocks & Broad Clough.
The consensus seems to be that the longer way is actually faster.

Broad Clough to Kinder Downfall. CP 7 is the second split.
A number of people went wrong here in 2024 so be careful.


Kinder Downfall to William Clough Climb
CP10 (Sandy Heys) has been moved back down to Benny's Bridge
as the baby will be coming around the side of Sandy Heys.

William Clough, Mill Hill, Leygatehead Moor

Shooting Cabin, Snake Path

Snake Path to Groovy Kinder Love finish by Scout Hut

Groovy Kinder Love - SSSI Notification

Groovy Baby Love ONLY
Instructions for getting from river Kinder to Sandy Heys

Cross the River Kinder bridge and follow the path to the left.
Climb to the wall corner and then follow the fence line towards the reservoir. N.B this is different to the 2023 version. There is now no need to go to Hollin Head.













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Groovy Kinder Love

Groovy & Baby Kinder Love I have added the option of running a shorter version of the Groovy Kinder Love with a totally unins...